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Of late, my BUNCH FAMILY GENO searching and categorizing has suffered from the 

drouth as well as trying to keep abreast of the news.

Not keeping up with current news as a very young man almost got me killed! So you can 

sort of understand my present curiosity. In my early days it was, the war; the high school 

football scoreboard; Armature Boxing; and then my early jobs experience, such as 

mowing yards, and delivering the local newspaper (That I never read) using my bicycle. 

That had my interest. And by that time, one particular young lady held my attention. Oh, 

and my budding Military carreer. The everyday difficulties of food prices and raising a 

family wasn't even on the radar! 

How things have changed!

Jobs for a young man was not too easy to find in my rural town. Especially since every 

young man had "temporary employee" stamped on his forehead, having Military service in 

their future a probability, every one; except those with college deferments and such.

So, working out in the fields, and the hot sun, hauling hay; drivng a tractor with a mower 

or plow behind it, was a blessing. Only at the time I didn't know or appreciate that. 

Unloading 90 Pound sacks of fertilizer from boxcars down at the mill was not a favorite 

either, until much later, when running uphill or hiking across parts of California with bags 

of sand in my backpack during training! Then I was glad I had some strength and a bit of 

stamina in my britches. Still, I gripped with the best of my mates, as we guzzled as many 

beers as our wee budgets could endure in the EM Club on rare occasions.

I quit reading any newspapers years ago. Putting out a blank page or two would be an 

improvement of both "real news" and "real truth"! And watching any "so-called news" on 

the TV is more waisted time! You would have a better impact on your family playing Dolls

with your daughter, or reading Fairy Tales to your son!

I depend upon many Websites for just a token of what is going on. I look at a site of a 

crazy Christion named Steve Quayle to start off (https://www.stevequayle.com/). Yea, he

seems wacky, but if you can get over he's repeating what he believes is mot important; 

just to make sure you didn't skim over it, it makes a heap of sense. Especially as he is

batting over 99.9% on what is happening, and what is gonna happen, and why!

Then I run over "Drudge Report" which is more than slightly tilted to the LEFT and 

LGBTASSHOLE side of things. (For a reason!) Then I have a saved list of sites with "wide 

views". (Same having an axe to grind on only one side or t'other!) Such as Military news 

sites, and many "Bitchute" type of sites. Everything but Facebook", which is too CIA 

infiltrated (A nice enough term.) for me. All the logical "site load" to give me the crux of 

People mood and thoughts, and public Government moves.

Here is what I've garnered so far. (Including being weighted to the RIGHT, for a reason.)

There really is a movement for DEPOPULATION! And it is Govt-Media-One World-UN 

based! Nothing else makes sense out of "Their" statments, writing, and most important, 

"Their" actions,

There is TREASON  a'foot at times because on 911 tons of GOLD was moved before-hand, 

or turned up missing. Oh, Gold turns into a gas when burned at very high temps? How 

high? You mean Thermite high! That's what I thought...

Recently it was HAWAII that was incenerated. Parts were burned by wildfire. But not only 

was the fire suspicious, the Parts that burned was suspicious, while the Parts that did not 

burn was in the same catagory! Worse is the fact that 1700 Children are unaccounted for! 

This is more than unacceptable, it is CRIMINAL! The actions of the Police warrents Prison 

time! And those that ordered the "Police Action" of blocking traffic and other orders that 

cost lives deserve a worse punishment! In the years to come perhaps we citizens can 

hand out such punishment! Continuing to follow the law is a Heroic effort that will be 

remembered as the Hawaiians try to put their lives back together.

I saw a movie once about a gang stealing all the Gold from the Twin Towers, so it's true, 

they make a movie or a cartoon announcing what "They" are about to do to "Us". There is 

a Movie about such wildfires set from Space using "Beams"! And a Cartoon about 911 

"Planes" as well as the coming Internet "failure" in 2024, about January!

 Murderous VENEZUELAN GANGS have moved into NY! Speaking of New York, who 

elected any UN person to "Be Over" us? No One!  

The NM Govenor is in hot water for canceling the 1st AND 2ND  AMENDMENTs!

There are people watcher people that say the DEMS are setting up to RIG the 2024 

ELECTION!   

DISEASES transmitted by unvetted IMMIGRANTES  is bringing back TUBERCULOSIS; and 

POLIO into our communities!  

RUSSIAN "DOOMSDAY" PLANES are being stationed in SIBERIA. Maybe they got flooded?  

LIBERTY SAFES are no longer safe from the FBI! Check that out!!

So "They" are really following the "One World Order" plan exposed and explained in the 

Bible! Wonder why "They hate and deny it so much?

Later,

Dirty Water Dan

TEXAS

                                                         USS Garrett County LST 786

    

On The Basis Of Historic And Genealogical Research

 On The Basis Of Historic And Genealogical Research

I have a great interest in this subject of John Punch being the 

progenitor of my Bunch Clan. For obvious reasons. My reaction at 

first glance was "WOW!" We have had a giant step in furthering the 

Bunch Line! But then, upon reading how they obtained the "Step", I 

soon realized that assumptions were more than allowed in the craft of 

Genealogy. I read "Source", and "more than one Source". And 

especially "Written Documentation" records that are most 

authoritative. Turns out, any old "Sherlock Holmes" mental 

gymnastics" will do! So something like this below is acceptable.

"In as much as there are now very few records that go back three 

hundred years, it is difficult to trace relationship that far back; 

however, it is felt reasonably safe to assume that..."

Acceptable by persons well respected below...

"Anastasia Harman, Paul C. Reed, Natalie D. Cottrill, Joseph 

Shumway, "Documenting President Barack Obama’s maternal 

African-American ancestry: tracing his mother’s Bunch ancestry to the 

first slave in America," (Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 16 July 2012) Read 

at Internet Archive."

So now that I finally see all the rules, I could play this game forever! 

And now after; "it is difficult to trace relationship that far back; 

however, it is felt reasonably safe to assume that..." I have discovered 

that a Lady named on a transported to Virginia list, one "Eliza: Bunch" 

(Elizabeth Bunch) Age 20, was a passenger aboard the Ship Alice 

from London England to Virginia, imbarqued 1635. Richard Orchard, 

Mr. (Master).

The Govenor of Virginia, Argall, was so smitten by her beauty that he 

managed to entice her aboard his personal yacht without a 

chaperone, took a short trip up the James River (Pamunkey River), to 

a friends Plantation, and on the way raped her! Ms. Bunch was left at  

the home of the Govenor's friend, Hugh Gwynn, as Govenor Argall 

sailed to return to James City and his delayed ruling of Virginia, for his 

impromptu diversions are far and few in this young and hostile land.

Luckily a indentured servant by the name of John Punch had mercy 

upon the lady. He contrived to steal a boat, return the Lady Elizabeth 

Bunch to her friends at James City. She was so grateful that she 

married this heroic African Servant.

Of course, he could not return to Hugh Gwynn's Plantation, so with 

another two Servants, he tried to escape out of Virginia, but was soon 

captured in Maryland. And his fate is now well known. He was made a 

slave for life. I have not made a decision about their life together 

after I found out that she and an Indian by the name of Thomas Rolfe 

were seen together several times. Alternative History says He, 

Thomas Rolfe, had other children by several different women.

Well, how am I doing so far? Records from Virginia are all but totally 

lost, due to wars and fires. There are no real "Identifiers", after all, 

they weren't issued Social Security Numbers, nor draft numbers. No 

horse registration, riders license, no home address to paint on the 

curb out front, hell, no curb! So one has to trace relationships, make 

assumptions; even become aware of closeness in proximity to one 

another. 

All these people were in Virginia at the same time. In fact in James 

city at the same time. Spoke the same language. Are real people, in 

real place, in real time, and in their stated  Social circumstances, for 

real! That's as close in each category as the above "hysterical" and 

amazingly accipitral hypothesis reached by historical real learned 

genealogists that, as far as I can read, is much accepted as "Gospel." 

today. In fact "alternative" history says Mayatoka was also raped by 

her abductor! So my "Assumptions" are just as "In Play" as any other.

So is it, the announced line, real? Or is it mostly for a bow to Power, 

or Prestige? After all, it's not everyone that can nail down a "First 

Slave" and a "Noble Prize Winner" every day, at the same time!

Besides, I'll take all of that in my family tree! I always claimed to be 

kin to all the men that were ever elected to the office of President. 

As well the "Perhaps" of the Nobel Prize Winner Bunch. And being the 

poor branch of the Bunch Family Tree,  I'm beginning to wonder 

about the amount of the "Reparations", and should I be in the front 

of the line? Judging by the looks I get when I remark to the Nurses 

pulling my Bood at the VA; "Be careful, that's Obama Blood in them 

veins! Me and President Obama is kinfolk. No, really...." Judging by 

the look on their faces, I'm gonna need lots of documentation!

Later,

Dan Bunch

TEXAS

------------------------DAN NOTES and Sources Below

In July 2012, Ancestry.com published a paper suggesting that John 

Punch was a twelfth-generation grandfather of President Barack 

Obama on his mother's side, on the basis of historic and genealogical 

research and Y-DNA analysis. Punch's descendants were known by 

the Bunch or Bunche surname. Punch is believed to be one of the 

paternal ancestors of the 20th-century American diplomat Ralph 

Bunche, the first African American to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

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John Bunch (Punch), I

Also Known As: "Punch", "Bunch"

Birth date: before circa 1637

Birth place: of, York County, Virginia Colony

Death:  after circa 1704

New Kent, Virginia, United States (Body lost or destroyed) 

Immediate Family:

Son of John Punch and N.N.

Husband of wife of John Bunch l

Father of Paul Bunch, Sr; John Bunch, Il / “Sr.” and Henry Bunch, Sr.

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John Punch

Also Known As: "“First slave in America", "” João", "Bunch", 

"Bunche"

Birthdate: before circa 1605

Birthplace: Ivory Coast, or, Cameroon

Death: after circa 1640

New Kent County, Virginia Colony, Colonial America 

Immediate Family:

Partner of N.N.

Father of John Bunch, I

History: John Punch was an African slave brought to Virginia in 

1640. He was owned by Hugh Gwyn. Married a white woman. His 

name became Bunch.

Immediate Family

---------------------------CONT.---------

N.N.

partner

John Bunch, I

son

About John Punch

Biography

retrieved 19 September 2019 from Wikipedia article (link below)

John Punch (fl. 1630s, living 1640) was an enslaved African who lived 

in the Colony of Virginia. Thought to have been an indentured 

servant, Punch attempted to escape to Maryland and was sentenced 

in July 1640 by the Virginia Governor's Council to serve as a slave for 

the remainder of his life.

indentured servant (later slave) of Hugh Gwynn/Gwyn

1st documented African slave in colonial America

Genealogy notes

The National Park Service, in a history of Jamestown, notes that while 

it was a "customary practice to hold some Negroes in a form of life 

service," Punch was the "first documented slave for life."

(Dan Note: That means that they got the newly freed person (of all 

colors) to sign a contract they couldn't read for hand tools, seed, etc., 

which returned them to servanthood upon default for a period of 

seven or more years. That and other such schemes were used also to 

lease Indian Tribal land, 250 acres for 99 years, and writing in 25,000 

acres in the mets and bounds into contracts that the Indians could 

not read, let alone visualize acreage; of any size.) 

In July 2012, Ancestry.com published a paper suggesting that John 

Punch was a twelfth-generation grandfather of President Barack 

Obama on his mother's side, on the basis of historic and genealogical 

research and Y-DNA analysis. Punch's descendants were known by 

the Bunch or Bunche surname. Punch is believed to be one of the 

paternal ancestors of the 20th-century American diplomat Ralph 

Bunche, the first African American to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

(Dan Note: " Punch's descendants were known by the Bunch or 

Bunche surname." This is because they found no records of any 

"Punch" descendants! So it musta been BUNCH? I got some Jordan's 

living near me. That makes my children Jordan's?)

Biography

From https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/176878786

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John Punch was an African slave brought to Virginia in 1640. John 

Punch (fl. 1630s, living 1640) Married a white woman. 

"Father of Paul Bunch, Sr; John Bunch, Il / “Sr.” and Henry Bunch, 

Sr."

John Bunch came to Lancaster County, Virginia in 1651 as an 

indentured servant. He later moved to New Kent County, Virginia and 

owned land on the Pamunkey River by the 1670?s. He received a 

patent for 450 acres in New Kent County, Virignia on the 18 March 

1662 (Patents 5:152). John Bunch immigrated to Lancaster County, 

Virginia about 1651/1652. His son, John, married Rebecca and died 

before 1742. Descendants lived in Virginia, Missouri and elsewhere. 

Title Bunch pedigree chart, 1651/1652-1971 Authors Bunch, John A, 

1910- (Main Author) Alice Crandall Park with Co-compiler Avis Park 

Voss for the Park/e/s portion. Park/e/s and Bunch on the Trail West 

With Allied Families: Benton, Duvall, Foster, Greenwell, Jones, 

Loveless and Tally. 1982 edition. Baltimore, MD: Gateway Press,Inc., 

1982.(There is a legend among descendants of the Bunches, John Sr., 

John Jr. and Paul, that they are related to Pocahontas, the Powhattan 

Indian princess who married John Rolf (Park Bunch families by Alice 

Crandall Park and Mrs. Garland King, Tennessee State library.) 'List of 

Burials, Center Church Burying Ground, Hartford, CT'. In the 

comments section for a grave is the comment that the interred, James 

Bunce, was the son of John Bunce and Mary Barnard.

BUNCH

It is known that the family lived in Scotland for 400 years. According 

to Nugent's 'Pioneers and Cavaliers of Virginia,' John Bunch came to 

Virginia in 1651-1652. He purchased 450 acres of land in 1662, which 

land was located in New Kent County. From New Kent County, in 

1720 Hanover County was formed. Then from Hanover County, in 

1742 Louisa County was formed. In as much as there are now very 

few records that go back three hundred years, it is difficult to trace 

relationship that far back; however, it is felt reasonably safe to 

assume that this John Bunch referred to above is the grandfather of 

the John Bunch who died in 1742. It is felt reasonably certain that the 

farm that was purchased by John in 1662 is the same farm that was 

owned by David Bunch,1722-1776, and passed on to his heirs in his 

will.

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Wahunsonacock Powhatan (b. 17 Jun 1545, d. Apr 1618)

Wahunsonacock Powhatan (son of Ensenore Algonkian and Scent 

Flower)84, 84 was born 17 Jun 1545 in New River, VA, USA84, 84, 

and died Apr 1618 in VA, USA84, 84.He married (1) Ponnoiske.He 

married (2) Ottermiske.He married (3) Appomosiscut.He married (4) 

Appimmonoiske.He married (5) Ashetoiske.He married (6) 

Attossomiske.He married (7) Oweroughwough.He married (8) 

Nonoma Powhatan.He married (9) Amopotuskee Bear Cherokee.He 

married (10) Ottopomtacke.He married (11) Ortoughnoiske.He 

married (12) Nonoma Powhatan.He married (13) Uttopomtacke.He 

married (14) Powhatten.He married (15) Artoughnoiske.He married 

(16) Wahunsonacoch Wa Hun Sea A Cawh.He married (17) 

Nanoma.He married (18) Opirhapan Itoyath Sasawpen.He married 

(19) Opechancanough Mangopeesomon.He married (21) Queen 

Winganuske on 159084.He married (22) Nonoma on 159584.He 

married (23) Winganuske Matatiske on 159484.He married (24) 

Nonoma Winanuske on 1588 in VA, USA84.

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Children of Wahunsonacock Powhatan are:

Cleopatra Powhatan, b. 1600, VA, USA84, d. 1641, VA, USA84.

Matachannu Powhatan, b. 1589, VA, USA84.

Tahacoope Quiqoughcohannock Powhatan, b. 1595, Orapaks, VA, 

USA84.

Tahacoope Quiqoughcohannock Powhatan, b. 1570, VA, USA84.

Parahunt Powhattan, b. 1581, Tseacomoca, VA, USA84.

Pamouic, b. 158784.

Secotin, b. 158784.

Cleopatra, b. 1594, VA, USA84, d. 1680, VA, USA84.

Tatacoope The Algonquian.

Taux The Algonquian.

Pochins The Algonquian.

Nantaquas The Algonquian.

Parahunt The Algonquian.

Nantahoack.

Mehta.

Tomoco.

Mantequos.

Taux.

Matachanna.

Parahunt.

Namontack.

Pochins.

Powcanoe.

Quimca.

Opechancanough Powhatan, b. 1574, Gloucester, VA, USA84.

Apachamo Kekataugh Powhatan, b. 1557, Powhatan Tribe, VA, 

USA84,d., Tseacomoca, VA, USA84.

Matoaka Wahunsunacock, b. 1595, West Point, VA, USA84, d. 21 Mar 

1617, Gravesend, Kent, England84.

Tahacoope Quiqoughcohannock.

Pochins Powhatan, b., VA, USA84.

Opitchapan Powhatan, b. 1550, VA, USA84.

Nataquous.

Mehtafe.

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Jeremiah Bunch, Sr. Bertie Co., NC died 1863

In the newspaper, Biblical Recorder, Raleigh, NC, June 10, 1863, is 

found:

Died near Windsor, Bertie County, April 18, Jeremiah Bunch, Sr., aged 

85 years, 2 months and 10 days. He joined Cashie Baptist Church 30 

years ago, a member since 1851, dismissed and a member at 

Republican.

------------------------------------------

Jeremiah Bunch

Birthdate: 1650

Birthplace:  England (United Kingdom)

Death: November 16, 1727 (76-77)

Immediate Family:

Husband of Unknown Indian Saponi Bunch

Father of Paul Bunch; Henry Bunch; Jesse Bunch; Ephraim Bunch and 

William Bunch

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Immediate Family

Unknown Indian Saponi Bunch (DN: See Below)

wife

Paul Bunch

son

Henry Bunch

son

Jesse Bunch

son

--------------------------------

Unknown Indian Saponi Bunch

Birthdate: estimated between 1618 and 1674 

Death:

Immediate Family:

Wife of Jeremiah Bunch

Mother of Paul Bunch; Henry Bunch; Jesse Bunch; Ephraim Bunch and 

William Bunch

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http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tova_alice1635.shtml

Passengers on Ship Alice from London England to Virginia 1635

The under-written are to be transported to Virginia, imbarqued in the 

Alice, Richard Orchard, Mr. The men have taken and oath of Allegianc 

& Supreme.

First Name ; Surname ;Age

Edward Hughes 21

James Morfy 21

Robert Haggara 33

Tho: Askew 21

Richd Cooke 21

Miles Atkinson 22

Rowland Vaughan 19

Richard Natt 18

Fra: Jenkinson 28

Willm Kendridd 20

Jo: Wilson 29

Robt. Baxter 21

Jo: Bently 21

Jo: Holdsmorth 34

Jo: Wright 21

Charles Peacock 28

Chris Hudson 30

Jo: Smith 20

Jo: Cooper 20

Edward Waggett 20

Jo: Vicars 35

Tho: Atkinson 27

Rowland Sadgerner 21

Wm Massingbird 23

Jo: Hutton 18

Eliazbeth Dew 32

Ann Dew 9mo.

Rachelle Adams 16

Avis Deacon 19

Hanna Gifford 20

Eliza: Bunch 20 +++++++++++++++++++

Sophia Rottrie 16

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WikiTree

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From http://powhatan.org, Information from the Powhatan Nation

"And it is here the story gets really interesting. While the history 

books have long insisted Thomas had but one New World wife, the 

aforementioned Jane Poythress, recent scholarship has shown that 

Wyndam Robertson, in his 1887 book, "Pocahontas and Her 

Descendants," took it upon himself, ostensibly in the interest of 

clearing up all the spousal confusion, to simply designate an 'official 

wife' ["I adopt (the name) Jane Poythress"]. As a result of this sloppy 

genealogy by a prominent historian and theologian, 'Jane Poythress,' 

a clearly arbitrary name, has ever since been identified by nearly all 

historians as the undisputed, lone American wife of Thomas Rolfe."

(DN) Yepper! The name, 'Jane Poythress,'IS FAKE! Steady there; If ya 

ain't ready, there's more!

"[Our records start] with the Indian chief, Murmuring Ripple, who 

died in 1495. According to the olden history, he was the father of 

Dashing Stream, who was born May 6, 1474, on the banks of a 

tributary of the Lancer river, which headed in the Blue Ridge 

mountains. He died in 1540. Dashing Stream was the father of 

Scented Flower, who was born June 3, 1517, at the junction of the 

Dan and Staunton rivers in Virginia. Scented Flower was the father of 

Powhatan [whose real name was Wahunsenacawh, a Pamunkey who 

became king, or powhatan, of the confederation of coastal tribes], 

born June 17, 1545, near New River, Va., and died in 1622, at the 

age of 77 years. [He had] a daughter by the name of Pocahontas, 

who was born in 1596, near Jamestown, Va."

"Please note: the names MURMURING RIPPLE, DASHING STREAM and 

SCENTED FLOWER are FICTIONAL!"

(DN) FICTIONAL! Now, you may have known this, but no one ever 

posted to tell Dan Bunch this!!

(I always suspected certain names were just too cool and "co-inky-

dinky" for me to digest.)

"New research over the past few decades [Slatten and Moore, John 

Brayton, and others] has exposed this long-lived, self-serving 

Robertson fabrication. It has also unearthed tantalizing fresh evidence 

linking Thomas Rolfe to other females besides "Jane Poythress" 

(whoever she was). They include: 1) a cousin of Pocahontas named 

Oconoco, or Oi Poi. One of their children has been identified as 

Thomas "Powhatan" Rolfe. Oral tradition says he insisted all his life 

on being called "Powhatan" 2) a Dorothy Jennings of North Carolina 

3) an Indian maid of Dorothy's named Mary Grimes."

"To summarize then, Thomas Rolfe must have had several children, 

perhaps as many as twelve according to some reports, and they 

almost certainly issued from more than one wife or mistress. The 

following offspring have been named in several different accounts, 

with varying degrees of evidence and conjecture in their support:

----------------------------------------------------

Scent Flower 1480-1525

Wife of Capt. John Thomas Rolfe

Scent Flower Powhatan Cornstalk Running Stream 1517-1600

Daughter of Scent Flower

Scent Flower 1517-1600

Daughter of Scent Flower Powhatan Cornstalk Running Stream

Wahunsonacock (Emperor Wahunsomacock Powhattan Powhatan 

CHIEF HILL POWHATAN) Powhatan Wahunsonacock Kocoum 

Powhatan (Patawomeck Tribe) 1545-1618

Son of Scent Flower

Chief Japasaw (1), aka Opechancanough Powhatan I Oppasus 1590-

1620

Son of Wahunsonacock (Emperor Wahunsomacock Powhattan 

Powhatan CHIEF HILL POWHATAN) Powhatan Wahunsonacock 

Kocoum Powhatan (Patawomeck Tribe)

Father (Chief of Cherokee Nation) Whipsewansson Wahanganoche of 

Arroyha Winigum 1620-1664

Son of Chief Japasaw (1), aka Opechancanough Powhatan I Oppasus

Paul (Native American) Winigum 1650-1700

Son of Father (Chief of Cherokee Nation) Whipsewansson 

Wahanganoche of Arroyha Winigum

Amy (Cherokee) Winigum Bunch 1668-1748 (Wife of my Paul Bunch 

est 1652,(1673-1727)

Daughter of Paul (Native American) Winigum

John Henry Jeremiah Bunch (Cherokee) 1690-1775 (m Judith Hill 14  

Feb 1765 Chowan Co., NC

Son of Amy (Cherokee) Winigum Bunch

Sarah Allison Bunch 1690-1740

Daughter of John Henry Jeremiah Bunch (Cherokee)

Maj. John Bunch Holder 1716-1816

Son of Sarah Allison Bunch

Lt. Jesse Elihu Holder Sr 1750-1802

Son of Maj. John Bunch Holder

John Harbard(Thomas? Ethridge) Holder 1783-1834

Son of Lt. Jesse Elihu Holder Sr

Ann Maria Holden(Holder) 1809-1858

Daughter of John Harbard(Thomas? Ethridge) Holder

Cornelia Angela Kimball 1834-1941

Daughter of Ann Maria Holden(Holder)

Howard Milton Boullemet 1870-1921

Son of Cornelia Angela Kimball

Mary Cornelia May Boullemet Bays 1882-1949

Daughter of Howard Milton Boullemet

Lillie May Mazie Wittman 1919-1997

Daughter of Mary Cornelia May Boullemet Bays

Raymond

You are the son of Lillie

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                                        The RESTRICT ACT

 https://citizens.news/715088.html

https://www.stevequayle.com/

2023-04-10

IMPORTANT NOTICE - NOT A JOKE!

"The RESTRICT ACT, if passed, will allow the US government to 

seize any computer of any American who questions authority, 

narratives, elections, pandemics, vaccines, pharmaceutical 

drugs, climate change, or genetically modified foods in the 

Anti-TikTok bill" 

DAN NOTE: 

Dang! That is all that's on sites like "Bitchute" and lots of other 

sites! I wonder if this includes all the chatter about UFO's and 

Underwater UFO's? Wow!

"RESTRICT Act" would allow rogue government to seize control 

over your self-driving vehicle and drive you off a cliff to 

"mitigate" risk to the government".

"Restrict Act" allows US government to imprison anyone for 

anything at any time for any reason they want, as long as they 

say you are countering their narrative"

DAN NOTE:

Apparently, the legislature has written into this bill every 

contingency that could ever be concieved by huge legal and ack' 

a' dem' ick' brains alive today.....except one!

Ya see, they didn't count on a genius like me to be able at all to 

nullifiy their sh*t in my life! All I gotta do is:

1) Don't use the internet at all! (There goes the internet. But it 

was already about dead anyway.)

2) Get a "dumb" older pickup to drive! (That means no fancy 

tunes; No "Where am I" help! No tracking; And therefore no 

jacking with your speed and cr*p. (Ask Glenn Beck about that:) 

Go antenna-less!  (Digital Radio, Mobile Telephone, and GPS 

Navigation Roof Mounted Antenna.)

3)Don't use any "Social Media" at all! (There goes someone's 

Adv income) Turn your phone off, pull the battery, and leave it 

at home! (For some models.) Or put it in a wire cage in the 

trunk of the car! Don't trust the TV, even if it's "Off"! Throw 

that Echo or Alexa, or similar devices inna trash!

You know, me and the Wife live way out in the country. We just 

HAD to get the newest TV. You know, one that plays football 

and movies off of the dish, the phone, the lawnmower, etc. So I 

told the Wife about all the goings on with the speaker 

microphones, and your phone picking up your conversations and 

such. So we made up a test!

We got to talking about needing to buy a new hay bailer. Now it 

ain't everybody that needs one of those! It's not like, say a 

dishwasher, or a robotic vaccume. We figured this item to be 

one to use for a good fair test.

Yepper, you guessed it! As soon as we turned on our three 

computers, up popped ads on every page for "Hay Bailers", 

Bailin' twine, hay cutters, and hay conditioners! On every page 

that we always go to every day! We never seen them things adv 

before...

So you don't have to watch yer mouth just online, er in "Social 

Media", or on yer Podcast, or sitting on your pourch swing 

talking to a neighbor, with yer dang phone in yor back pocket. 

You better watch that dang TV a'tellin on ya too! ( I wonder if 

that robot vacuum has a built-in microphone in it?) You can't 

trust a lamp, a computer, your new see-through refrigerator; 

your keychain pushbutton door-alarm lock! And don't forget the 

door pushbutton "security" camera either!

Wait a dog-gone minute! Come to think on it, I already got two 

out of three of the "before numbered" items I'mma use'n right 

now! All I gotta do is wean myself off of the internet, and BAM!

I'm set to go into the "Twilight Zone"!

But for how long? How long is this country going to put up with 

all this "Democracy"? (That means the mob rules your being 

innocent or guilty. And makes points from the balcony with a 

bullhorn instead of winning or loseing through debate.) Until a 

"Republic" is once again established? (That means each man is 

innocent until proven guilty by a court of law in a fair and open, 

unbiased trial. Which is getting harder to find, even in Texas!)

No wonder They want a "Reset". It's the getting rid of our 

Supreme Court, and Grand Juries that They want. So a Socialist 

Government can be instituted by those Americans that have 

been brainwashed in schools and taught that they want and 

need one; a "Reset".

Later,

Dan Bunch

TEXAS

Pamunkey 1899

 JUST MY IN' TWO' IT' ION ABOUT TO RESET

I hate to delve into poly' ticks' at any time, especially this morning when everything is going so well, but I am moved to tell you something about the term "Reset". That is; as the politicos mean the term.

I saw ISRAEL full of rioters on the TV this morning. What's the trouble? The people messed up and gave their leader all the power he asked for, in effect, they say, making him a Dictator. 

And with this new consolidated power he is giving the country a "Reset". Or so I believe. By changing the Judicial System.

I seem to remember a President of the U.S. saying that this country needed a "fundamental change", and now I'm putting the pieces together in my mind. The picture this puzzle is making is one that brings fear into focus, and that is never a good feeling to have. So, I'll list the pieces and try to explain what my mind sees from each one as it seems to fit into place.

Countries' leaders with all the power in effect are changing thlaws! By changing their Judicial System. And that is what they call a "reset".

All the chasing after an Ex-President is to disgrace him so he can be hit with being the only President to ever be arrested during any attempt to run for office again. 

The main thing here is the use of Grand Juries! New York has a "Two Tier" system of Grand Juries. 

It's like a Defense Lawer using a "Mock Jury" to hear the facts and defense they are going to use in their client's real case before a real "Jury of his Peers". Sort of like a play's rehearsal, just to see how all their treatment of evidence and rebuttals go over, as well as catch mistakes and any surprises beforehand.

Then they (NY) move on to the "Real" Grand Jury. The use of so many such "Mock Jury" must mean none of these first tier "Juries" are buying the charges for an indictment. This is intentional. 

President Biden can later step up and claim that NY Prosecutors harassed, and used unlawful persecution against Trump for Political reasons, and that this must end! How? By changing the Judicial System, of course! Which gives us a complete "Reset". 

My brain is telling me this is the whole point of the "Exercise". It gives the Politicos sort of a "Win-Win" situation. Because all sides will be calling for this change, as all sides are in on the One World Plan!

If the, NY Prosecutor BRAGG (Briggs?) "Gets him, they can celebrate. If not, there may be a call for changing the Judicial System. A total Reset!

How would the change be accomplished to create such a Reset that would become such a powerful change of course effecting the everyday business and life of typical citizens? By getting rid of the Grand Jury System!

I had no idea that there are only two countries in the world that still use this system of Justice! England having given it up long ago, will give us a look at what that might mean. Will we be considered guilty as charged and then have to stand at the dock and prove our innocence? I'm afraid it might.

What is all this Reset about? Well, you can't have a whole planet be a single country without having one Judicial System that everyone must bow to! One System. Three Judges sitting on the bench (as do the Communists). And you in the dock... in chains.

What I wonder too is; what are they going to do with all the Native Americans on Reservations? Respect and protect them as long as the rivers run, and the sun sets over the mountains?  I bet not...

Later,

Dan Bunch

TEXAS

 

Howdy,

DAN NOTE: Earlier I posted this line below to include BUNCH to Pocahontas kinfolk. Here then are some sources, and some updates from my reading that is hard to believe. Not according to "Hoyle" as far as Geno Rules that the "real Geno's harp on us "name-collectors" and amateurs about! Things no one ever told me! Or posted it to inform me!

From http://powhatan.org, Information from the Powhatan Nation

"And it is here the story gets really interesting. While the history books have long insisted Thomas had but one New World wife, the aforementioned Jane Poythress, recent scholarship has shown that Wyndam Robertson, in his 1887 book, "Pocahontas and Her Descendants," took it upon himself, ostensibly in the interest of clearing up all the spousal confusion, to simply designate an 'official wife' ["I adopt (the name) Jane Poythress"]. As a result of this sloppy genealogy by a prominent historian and theologian, 'Jane Poythress,' a clearly arbitrary name, has ever since been identified by nearly all historians as the undisputed, lone American wife of Thomas Rolfe."

(DN) Yepper! The name, 'Jane Poythress,'IS FAKE! Steady there; If ya ain't ready, there's more!

"[Our records start] with the Indian chief, Murmuring Ripple, who died in 1495. According to the olden history, he was the father of Dashing Stream, who was born May 6, 1474, on the banks of a tributary of the Lancer river, which headed in the Blue Ridge mountains. He died in 1540. Dashing Stream was the father of Scented Flower, who was born June 3, 1517, at the junction of the Dan and Staunton rivers in Virginia. Scented Flower was the father of Powhatan [whose real name was Wahunsenacawh, a Pamunkey who became king, or powhatan, of the confederation of coastal tribes], born June 17, 1545, near New River, Va., and died in 1622, at the age of 77 years. [He had] a daughter by the name of Pocahontas, who was born in 1596, near Jamestown, Va."

"Please note: the names MURMURING RIPPLE, DASHING STREAM and SCENTED FLOWER are FICTIONAL!"

(DN) FICTIONAL! Now, you may have known this, but no one ever posted to tell Dan Bunch this!!

(I always suspected certain names were just too cool and "co-inky-dinky" for me to digest.

"New research over the past few decades [Slatten and Moore, John Brayton, and others] has exposed this long-lived, self-serving Robertson fabrication. It has also unearthed tantalizing fresh evidence linking Thomas Rolfe to other females besides "Jane Poythress" (whoever she was). They include: 1) a cousin of Pocahontas named Oconoco, or Oi Poi. One of their children has been identified as Thomas "Powhatan" Rolfe. Oral tradition says he insisted all his life on being called "Powhatan" 2) a Dorothy Jennings of North Carolina 3) an Indian maid of Dorothy's named Mary Grimes."

"To summarize then, Thomas Rolfe must have had several children, perhaps as many as twelve according to some reports, and they almost certainly issued from more than one wife or mistress. The following offspring have been named in several different accounts, with varying degrees of evidence and conjecture in their support:

- Anne Rolfe Elwyn, born 1633, mother, Elizabeth Washington - John Rolfe, born circa early 1640s, mother, "Jane Poythress" - Thomas Rolfe, Jr., born circa 1645, mother, "Jane Poythress" - William Rolfe, born circa late 1640s, mother, "Jane Poythress" - Jane Rolfe Bolling, born circa 1650, mother, "Jane Poythress" - Ann/Anne/Anna Rolfe Barnett, born circa 1653-65, mother unknown--"Jane Poythress?" Oi Poi? - Thomas "Powhatan" Rolfe, born circa 1665, mother, Oi Poi..."

Capt. John Thomas Rolfe

1585–1622

BIRTH 6 MAY 1585 • Hecham, Norfolkshire, Watkins, England

DEATH 22 MAR 1622 • Jamestown, James City, Virginia, United State

Scent Flower 1480-1525

Wife of Capt. John Thomas Rolfe

Scent Flower Powhatan Cornstalk Running Stream 1517-1600

Daughter of Scent Flower

Scent Flower 1517-1600

Daughter of Scent Flower Powhatan Cornstalk Running Stream

Wahunsonacock (Emperor Wahunsomacock Powhattan Powhatan CHIEF HILL POWHATAN) Powhatan Wahunsonacock Kocoum Powhatan (Patawomeck Tribe) 1545-1618

Son of Scent Flower

Chief Japasaw (1), aka Opechancanough Powhatan I Oppasus 1590-1620

Son of Wahunsonacock (Emperor Wahunsomacock Powhattan Powhatan CHIEF HILL POWHATAN) Powhatan Wahunsonacock Kocoum Powhatan (Patawomeck Tribe)

Father (Chief of Cherokee Nation) Whipsewansson Wahanganoche of Arroyha Winigum 1620-1664

Son of Chief Japasaw (1), aka Opechancanough Powhatan I Oppasus

Paul (Native American) Winigum 1650-1700

Son of Father (Chief of Cherokee Nation) Whipsewansson Wahanganoche of Arroyha Winigum

Amy (Cherokee) Winigum Bunch 1668-1748 (Wife of my Paul Bunch est 1652,(1673-1727)

Daughter of Paul (Native American) Winigum

John Henry Jeremiah Bunch (Cherokee) 1690-1775 (m Judith Hill 14  Feb 1765 Chowan Co., NC

Son of Amy (Cherokee) Winigum Bunch

Sarah Allison Bunch 1690-1740

Daughter of John Henry Jeremiah Bunch (Cherokee)

Maj. John Bunch Holder 1716-1816

Son of Sarah Allison Bunch

Lt. Jesse Elihu Holder Sr 1750-1802

Son of Maj. John Bunch Holder

John Harbard(Thomas? Ethridge) Holder 1783-1834

Son of Lt. Jesse Elihu Holder Sr

Ann Maria Holden(Holder) 1809-1858

Daughter of John Harbard(Thomas? Ethridge) Holder

Cornelia Angela Kimball 1834-1941

Daughter of Ann Maria Holden(Holder)

Howard Milton Boullemet 1870-1921

Son of Cornelia Angela Kimball

Mary Cornelia May Boullemet Bays 1882-1949

Daughter of Howard Milton Boullemet

Lillie May Mazie Wittman 1919-1997

Daughter of Mary Cornelia May Boullemet Bays

Raymond

You are the son of Lillie

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DAN NOTE: (DN) FROM MY NOTES 

" Amy Winigum" FROM:

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Paul_Bunch_%281%29

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(DB) Oh My Lord! Who did Mr. Punch marry? What Ms. BUNCH?

https://www.theeuropeanlibrary.org/

Bunch Settlers in United States in the 17th Century

Miss Elizabeth Bunch, (b. 1615), aged 20, British settler who arrived in Virginia in 1635 aboard the ship "Alice" [3]

John Bunch, who arrived in Virginia in 1656 [4]

William Bunch, who arrived in Virginia in 1665-1666 [4]

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An Eno-Occoneechee petetion for recognition by the state of North Carolina gave Saponi Indians Jeramiah Bunch (s/o Henry Bunch born about 1690), George Gibson, and Henry Bunch (born about 1690, s/o Paul Bunch) land grants in 1785 along the Eno River just east of Hillsboro, North Carolina.

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https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Paul_Bunch_%281%29

 Amy Winigum

 (DN) "F" MEANS "FATHER"; "M" MEANS "MOTHER" Perhaps included are some mistakes and a few outright LIES! (I'm learning...)

Paul Bunch, Sr.

b.Abt 1664 Hannover, Virginia

d.1726 Chowan County, North Carolina

Family tree?

Name Amy Winigum

Gender Female

Birth? Abt 1668 North Carolina

Marriage 1689

to Paul Bunch, Sr.

Add Parents and Siblings

Spouse and Children

(edit)

H.  Paul Bunch, Jr.

1713 - 1762

W.  Naomi Winigum

Abt 1725 - Bet 1754 & 1819

m. 28 Nov 1748

Add another spouse & children

?Facts and Events

Name Naomi Winigum

Gender Female

Birth? Abt 1725

Marriage 28 Nov 1748 Orangeburg, South Carolina

to Paul Bunch, Jr.

Death? Bet 1754 and 1819

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(DN) MY FILE

https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/jeremiah-bunch-24-2pm2t9g

"Jeremiah Bunch John Bunce Mary Spears"

Jeremiah Bunch

Birth

1650 - New Kent, Virginia

Death

16 Nov 1727 - New Kent County, Virginia

Mother

Mary Spears

Father

John Bunce

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Parents

John Bunce born in Hartford, Hartford County, Connecticut, USA in 1650 ...

Mary Spears

1634 - 1734

Spouse(s)

1650 - 1733

Mary Spears 

John Bunce born in Hartford, Hartford County, Connecticut, USA in 1650 ...

1650 - 1733

Mary Spears

1634 - 1734

Born in New Kent County, Virginia, USA in 1634 ...

1634 - 1734

Spouse(s)

Mary? Indian Woman Saponi Tribe

1655 - 1700 Born in Virginia, United States in 1655 ...

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(DN) MY FILE "Husband of Unknown Indian Saponi Bunch"

"https://www.geni.com/people/Jeremiah-Bunch/6000000172425807138"

Jeremiah Bunch

Birthdate: 1650

Birthplace: England (United Kingdom)

Death: November 16, 1727 (76-77)

Immediate Family:

Husband of Unknown Indian Saponi Bunch

Father of Paul Bunch; Henry Bunch; Jesse Bunch; Ephraim Bunch and William Bunch

Managed by: Don Darrell Reid #MA447440C1

Last Updated: February 11, 2021

Immediate Family

Unknown Indian Saponi Bunch

wife

Paul Bunch

Henry Bunc

Jesse Bunch

Ephraim Bunch

William Bunch

About Jeremiah Bunch

Immigrated in 1671

Source Citation

Place: Virginia; Year: 1671; Page Number: 92 Source Information

Ancestry.com. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.

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Jeremiah Bunch

b.Abt 1725 Chowan County, North Carolina

d.1797 Bertie County, North Carolina

Family tree?

Parents and Siblings

(edit)

F.  Henry Bunch

Abt 1690 - 1775

m.

Anne Nancy Bunch

Susannah Bunch

Abt 1714 - 1815

Jeremiah Bunch

Abt 1725 - 1797

Thomasine Bunch

Abt 1729 -

Rachel Bunch

Abt 1733 - Abt 1780

Embrey Bunch

1737 - 1788

Mary Nancy Ann Bunch

1738 - 1811

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Susannah Bunch

b.Abt 1714

d.1815 Greenville County, South Carolina

Family tree?

Parents and Siblings

(edit)

F.  Henry Bunch

Abt 1690 - 1775

m.

Anne Nancy Bunch

Susannah Bunch

Abt 1714 - 1815

Jeremiah Bunch

Abt 1725 - 1797

Thomasine Bunch

Abt 1729 -

Rachel Bunch

Abt 1733 - Abt 1780

Embrey Bunch

1737 - 1788

Mary Nancy Ann Bunch

1738 - 1811

Spouse and Children

(edit)

H.  Thomas Holder

1700 -

W.  Susannah Bunch

Abt 1714 - 1815

m. 7 Sep 1787

Aaron Holder

Elizabeth Bunch Holder

Lavinia Holder

Thomas Bunch Holder

John Bunch Holder

1730 - Bet 1790 & 1799

Elisha Holder

1735 - 1823

Isaac Lanley Holder

1743 -

William Holder

Bef 1755 - 1825

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(DN: FATHER OF SUSANNAH BUNCH

Henry Bunch

b.Abt 1690 Bertie County, North Carolina

d.1775 Bertie County, North Carolina

Family tree?

Parents and Siblings

(edit)

F.  Paul Bunch, Sr.

Abt 1664 - 1726

M.  Amy Winigum

Abt 1668 -

m. 1689

Henry Bunch

Abt 1690 - 1775

Shadrack Bunch

Abt 1706 - 1786

Fortune Bunch

Abt 1708 -

Jesse Bunch

1710 - 1795

John B. Bunch

1712 - Bet 1713 & 1802

Paul Bunch, Jr.

1713 - 1762

Spouse and Children

(edit)

H.  Henry Bunch

Abt 1690 - 1775

m.

Anne Nancy Bunch

Susannah Bunch

Abt 1714 - 1815

Jeremiah Bunch

Abt 1725 - 1797

Thomasine Bunch

Abt 1729 -

Rachel Bunch

Abt 1733 - Abt 1780

Embrey Bunch

1737 - 1788

Mary Nancy Ann Bunch

1738 - 1811

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Later,

Dan Bunch (Dirty Water Dan)

TEXAS

It's A great day here in TEXAS

 Howdy,

It's A great day here in TEXAS! Clear sky, crisp wind, neighbors talking about the torrential 

rain, horrendous wind, and almost a hun'drent tur'nad'urs we just lived through; you know, 

typical for North TEXAS.

I'm writing this because I ran across some info, that if true, is awesome, as it seems incorrect, 

in that the feller typed in (Cherokee) for just about every Indian, instead of (Powhaton) where 

I believe it should identify. However, if it looks like I'm joking, I didn't make this line up!

I do remember an Indian who liked a man so much he added his name to his own! Arroyha 

Winigum could be that name, I think that is the name I read about. Also, there is a dispute 

that "Amy Winigum did marry a Paul, just not Paul Bunch." (I know Tomehawk,I know :)

Making note of all that it would seem as if this line makes more sense to me, (by following 

Indian legend instead of educated guesses by educated geneologists,) than lots of others I've 

read over the years. Remember, this ain't my work. Oh, and I ain't found "John Henry 

Jeremiah Bunch" yet, but I have found three "jeremiah Bunch" in searching across the net. 

Yeah, you bet I'm workin' on this stuff, cause it would prove the writing in the books, "Parks 

And Bunch, The Way West". And the legend handed down by my Ancestors.

"There is a legend among descendants of Paul and his brother John Bunch, that they are 

somehow related to Pocahontas, the Pohattan Indian princess who married John Rolfe.

(Park Bunch families by Alice Crandall Park and Mrs. Garland King, Tennessee State Library.)"

(An Opinion) (est., btw., could have, might, perhaps, lived next door to:)

"A common mistake I have come across on the internet is that this elder Paul Bunch was 

married to an Amy Winigum of Orangeburg, SC about the year 1748. I have not looked for a 

marriage certificate for this marriage but I am sure it is true that Amy Winigum did marry a 

man named Paul Bunch. The problem is that people on the internet tend to change dates to 

try to make things fit, which is not a good practice."

IF you believe this is wrong, or have other records, PLEASE help by straightening me out!

(An Opinion)

my direct descendant Paul Bunch married Amy Willigum, a Cherokee Indian from NC. She is 

descended from Willigum, a Cherokee chief. Willigums took the English surname Winningham 

later. 

(Assumptions are allowed and good in this endeavor, correct?)

Of the fewer than one hundred African men who resided in Virginia before 1640, John Punch 

is the only man who bears a surname similar to Bunch. John Punch was an adult male living in 

1 In this section, names will be spelled out as they appear in the text of the document cited 

when the original records are quoted. There was no standardized spelling during this time 

period, so it is not unusual to find surnames or the names of places spelled many different 

ways, even in the same document. 

(This is totally an Assumption. X 2!)

"The children of John Bunch III freely married neighboring  white families." "This indicates 

that the children of John Bunch III must have been great-great grandchildren of the immigrant 

from Africa. Chronology does not allow them to be a generation closer. It is concluded from 

these facts that John Bunch I was son of a white woman by an African immigrant."

(I can only describe this as pert near dreaming.)

"If Hugh Gwynn had refused to grant John Punch his freedom at the end of his term of 

service, it could have provided him motive to seek freedom elsewhere, which he sought in 

1640." 

(So, one might reason? One Surname + One Surname X An Arbitrary sized Radius = *1Amy?) 

"Given the extreme rarity of the surname Bunch in England and Scotland one might 

reason that having traced one white immigrant named John Bunch to his death (headright of 

Gervase Dodson) 14 would make it less likely there were two more unrelated Bunch men 

living in the same thirty mile radius in 1659."

 

Staying Safe from Cataclysmic Events

"And, in general, extrapolations are normally avoided altogether in science, or used only with 

great caution." 

(In a world where anything is possible, then nothing is impossible.)

"PAUL BUNCH born possibly about 1652–58, married by 1679, and died shortly before 16 November 1727"

Capt. John Thomas Rolfe

1585–1622

BIRTH 6 MAY 1585 • Hecham, Norfolkshire, Watkins, England

DEATH 22 MAR 1622 • Jamestown, James City, Virginia, United State

Scent Flower 1480-1525

Wife of Capt. John Thomas Rolfe

Scent Flower Powhatan Cornstalk Running Stream 1517-1600

Daughter of Scent Flower

Scent Flower 1517-1600

Daughter of Scent Flower Powhatan Cornstalk Running Stream

Wahunsonacock (Emperor Wahunsomacock Powhattan Powhatan CHIEF HILL POWHATAN) 

Powhatan Wahunsonacock Kocoum Powhatan (Patawomeck Tribe) 1545-1618

Son of Scent Flower

Chief Japasaw (1), aka Opechancanough Powhatan I Oppasus 1590-1620

Son of Wahunsonacock (Emperor Wahunsomacock Powhattan Powhatan CHIEF HILL 

POWHATAN) Powhatan Wahunsonacock Kocoum Powhatan (Patawomeck Tribe)

Father (Chief of Cherokee Nation) Whipsewansson Wahanganoche of Arroyha Winigum 1620-

1664

Son of Chief Japasaw (1), aka Opechancanough Powhatan I Oppasus

Paul (Native American) Winigum 1650-1700

Son of Father (Chief of Cherokee Nation) Whipsewansson Wahanganoche of Arroyha Winigum

Amy (Cherokee) Winigum Bunch 1668-1748 (Wife of my Paul Bunch est 1652,(1673-1727)

Daughter of Paul (Native American) Winigum

John Henry Jeremiah Bunch (Cherokee) 1690-1775

Son of Amy (Cherokee) Winigum Bunch

Sarah Allison Bunch 1690-1740

Daughter of John Henry Jeremiah Bunch (Cherokee)

Maj. John Bunch Holder 1716-1816

Son of Sarah Allison Bunch

Lt. Jesse Elihu Holder Sr 1750-1802

Son of Maj. John Bunch Holder

John Harbard(Thomas? Ethridge) Holder 1783-1834

Son of Lt. Jesse Elihu Holder Sr

Ann Maria Holden(Holder) 1809-1858

Daughter of John Harbard(Thomas? Ethridge) Holder

Cornelia Angela Kimball 1834-1941

Daughter of Ann Maria Holden(Holder)

Howard Milton Boullemet 1870-1921

Son of Cornelia Angela Kimball

Mary Cornelia May Boullemet Bays 1882-1949

Daughter of Howard Milton Boullemet

Lillie May Mazie Wittman 1919-1997

Daughter of Mary Cornelia May Boullemet Bays

Raymond

You are the son of Lillie 

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There are tons of other similar lines like this one posted above;

https://blog.genealogybank.com/are-you-related-to-pocahontas-john-rolfe.html

My Blog with pics.

https://melungeonbunchsaponi.blogspot.com

Later,

Dan Bunch (Dirty Water Dan)

TEXAS

 OK LETS GET SERIOUS

Trying to look at everything with an open mind, let us take an "unbiased" look at 

this "PUNCH" to BUNCH thing.

 Of course, taking the previous condition of my Genius mindset, it is possible 

that I was, indeed showing myself to be a bit biased:) however I am used to 

that as my brain debates within itself like it was in a debate competition. I'm 

ready to take either side in a debate! Yep, i'm wierd, but as they say, knowing 

yer problem and admitting that; is half the battle toward the cure!

Here I am then, telling you that as the geno's did with Punch/Obama subject, 

my information comes to me about the rest of my family of BUNCH much the 

same way!

To make the sin greater; I knew that before I wrote those articles of.....er..

"Impeachment" (Yeah, that's funny to me. And that kind of tickles ma mind:)

I'm thinking about my Paul Bunch. You see that is about all we have....oops!

I typed "We" when I know better than include myself with the real Geno's work. 

You see, by necessity I am only A name collector. But as I was saying, all they 

have to work with is a hint of who lived where, and next to whom, and most the 

importantly when!

In a world not filled by; your local pharmacy, corner Quikstops, and supermall 

Opticians with "one hour" service for new trifocals. Perhaps two barbershops just 

in your neighborhood. There was no interferance in their lives, let alone 

"paperwork"! Back then there was no streets, let alone corners! 

Without much Government in their lives, there would be nothing to mark their 

passing in this world. What is left to us would be the usual haunts for family

searchers. Their list would be short indeed, as it is for any before the 1600's for 

sure. An old letter; a Bible; recorded deeds; "I remember what momma told 

me"; and that's about seventy percent more than people have to chase. Later, in 

the case of the BUNCH family, court cases are a big trail. Especially in the 

jurisdiction of the "Hanging Judge" of Arkansas. Drunk; Robbery; Thieft; Murder; 

all in the records. And back in Tennessee; counterfieting coins. Back in Old 

Virginia, it was Indians stealing hogs! And a biggie; trying to marry a White 

Woman! The audacity of some people that don't know they place.....:) 

Unless you were mentioned in some Officers' memoirs, or book about travels, 

perhaps a later surveyor's notes, then you were out of luck. So census records 

are very important. Before that, family Bibles filled with births and deaths, which 

are admissible in some cases in court, are a treasure, and a blessing. 

"Quitrents" would be all important. And if your a "Newby" and don't know of 

those, you have a bit of reading to do to catch up.

A hundred years ago, checking me for a "Secret Classification" was easy. The 

Navy came to town in civilian suits, so as to not stand out, which made them 

stand out. Overalls and a soiled, beat up old Stetson, as the Texas Rangers wear 

whenever they trapes around town would have been better. A quick in and out 

to drink a five cent bottled coke, is much better than a "Lawyer Look", or 

Insurance salesmen look, provoking a "stay away from me" attitude you would 

get from most people back in them days! Having a talk with my barber, the only 

pharmacist, and the principal, and your done. Matter of fact, thinking of it, they 

did all that within five blocks of my house! And of course my parents got a 

phone call from everyone they talked to! (I was almost seventeen:)

Well to quit fooling around just to practice my one finger typing skills; lets get to 

the other side of my brain and see what might just mitigate my judgement a 

wee bit. I remembered looking up Punch family hustory. I figured that if it is a 

real name, it must have come from somewhere. Now pulling up my notes from 

my lost file folder, which contains everything after the "C" prompt and the 

"Documents" folder, this is what I found.

"Punch History, Family Crest & Coats of Arms...The name Punch came to 

England with the ancestors of the Punch family in the Norman Conquest of 

1066. It comes from the Latin-Norman personal name Pontius, "hence, 

doubtless, as a diminutive the name Puncheon, variant of Punshon." 

So far, so good. 

"Two other sources claim the name was Norman in origin: having derived from 

the Old Norman French name Ponche or the Old French name Ponce; [2] and/or 

from the Norman name Poyntz or Ponz, a branch of the Fitz-Ponce family. [3]"

French? Sure, they seem to get into every thing:) 

"Early Origins of the Punch family

The surname Punch was first found in various counties throughout Britain. The 

first record of the family was found in the Pipe Rolls of 1181 where Godfrey, 

Phillip Punch(e) was listed. Seman Ponche was listed in the Subsidy Rolls of 

Suffolk in 1327. [2] The Hundredorum Rolls of 1273 list: Robert Punche in 

Oxfrdshire; and Philip Punche in Suffolk. Later the Rolls of Parliament listed 

John Punche, yeoman of the crown (no date given.) [4]"

Oh! So now we have names! we might trace em' down to see which one 

immigrated to the colonies? Skipping down to avoid stuff, we com e to the 

'nitty-gritty.

""The manor [of Linch in Sussex] is described in the Domesday Survey under the 

name of Lince, and at the time when that record was compiled, there were two 

ministers here, with a church. In the 16th century, the place was parcel of the 

estates of the dukes of Norfolk; it afterwards became the property of Viscount 

Montague, and eventually of the family of Poyntz." [6]"

Oh cra-rud! Look what popped up! Most would miss this, not being well-read of 

history, luckily I am. But what a surprise! Especially to me...that name "Poyntz".

Ain't that one of them ancient spellings for BUNCH?

"Anglo-Norman names tend to be marked by an enormous number of spelling 

variations. This is largely due to the fact that Old and Middle English lacked any 

spelling rules when Norman French was introduced in the 11th century. The 

languages of the English courts at that time were French and Latin. These 

various languages mixed quite freely in the evolving social milieu. The final 

element of this mix is that medieval scribes spelled words according to their 

sounds rather than any definite rules, so a name was often spelled in as many 

different ways as the number of documents it appeared in. The name was 

spelled Punch, Poyntz, Pons and others."

That name "Pons" is even closer, And wasn't there a "BUNCH ROW/ROWE" that 

I talked about? Well, it's fairly evident that "PUNCH" and "BUNCH" are involved 

in ancient history of England. End of story! 

Thing is. why was I so....blind?  Ok, ok,  I was close to being wrong. Worse still, 

why is that so hard for a Genius like me to admit?  :)

Later,

Dan Bunch

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WHY BUY A DOG WHEN YA GOT A WHOLE HERD OF PLAYMATES?

 THE BLACK AND WHITE OF JOHN PUNCH

" Of the fewer than one hundred African men who resided in Virginia 

before 1640, John Punch is the only man who bears a surname similar to 

Bunch."

"The March 1620 Census Of Virginia ("....892 Europeans,.32 Africans (17 

of whom were male) and four Indians")"

The first questions to my mind are; 

1) Why does he have a surname?

2) Where is the list of the surnames/names of the other 32 Africans?

3) Do you know how many other surnames that "Punch" is similar to? 

Now listen, I am only asking questions here. you know, just to learn and 

think about the things assumed about the geno and the past things of 

family. I wonder if you know about this feller, Bunch Row?

Souece: Washington and his Neighbors; Wm. and Mary Qrtly., Vol. 4, No. 

1, 1895

Washington and his Neighbors

Lyon G. Tyler

"Until 1630 the settlements of the English in Virginia were confined to

the Accomac Peninsula and the valley of the James.  In 1630 the first

settlements were planted on the south side of the York River at Chiskiack

and York. " 

No! I ain't got that back'ards. It is correctly, Bunch Row. And his name 

come to mind as I thought of the many ways slaves, and truely, any man 

or woman could, and did change their names, fast as they changed...shoes. 

(They didn't wear underwear, or for that matter, shoes very often back 

then!)

"14.  Andrew1 Monroe had grants in Virginia from 1650 to 1662.  He is

referred to in the Maryland Archives in one place as "mariner".  He died

about 1668, when his widow married secondly George Horner.  He had 

issue,

1, Susannah; 2, Elizabeth, married Bunch Roe; 3, Andrew2; 4, George; 5,

William."

Memory plays tricks on me now-a-days. But I read about this feller years 

ago. Heres what I remember.

Bunch Row, son of Bunch Row, son of Bunch Row, a Dutchman, was living 

in New Amsterdam back in about 1664, when the English fleet attacked! 

Having gotten the word in advance, the Dutch had already skedat'led! The 

English sailed in, without firing a shot in anger, and claimed all the city and 

lands about.

That act made Bunch Row an English citizen. He was glad I reckon, 

because he went across country, to Virginia. How he crossed overland 

through some of the wildest Indian and rogue infested territory I'll never 

understand, but according to the story, he did that!

Soon in Virgina, he bought land, was lucky enough to garner, by auction or 

trade, some slaves. And then he planted tobacco. And of course, enter into 

marrage within one of the finest Old Pioneer Planter families on the river. 

(soon to be s Presidential family.)

You know, the place wherefrom all the Presidential Ancestors that have 

ever been elected to "lead" this great country have mysteriously come

from. That's why they are all kin to one-another! And of course, to me.

So...how many "servants", and then slaves, have taken a word they liked 

or chose; or the name or parts thereof of their master for their own name, 

in history?

By the way. when you pull off the very top of each plant of tobacco in 

order to make it branch out into many leaves, as you would for a "mary 

jane" plant, it's called, "bunching", or "to bunch the plant".

Later,

Dan Bunch

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RELSHUFFLE THEM CARDS  

(DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT EMAILING ME! You'll get no answer these days)

"I depted from James Towne the 9th of August 1610 And" I....."threatned 

to cutt of his heade whereupon the slave alltered his Cowrse and..."

Did he just say, "SLAVE"? Before 1610?  Lets check this against what I 

read.

CHARLES CITTY TIMELINE WITH BUNCH

1608 - First Two Women arrive in Jamestown

1619 - First Africans arrive in Jamestown ("It's not clear if the Africans are 

considered slaves or indentured servants.")

1620 - The Bride Ship arrives in Jamestown

The March 1620 Census Of Virginia ("....892 Europeans, .32 Africans (17 

of whom were male) and four Indians")

1651 - John Bunch "born: about 1630 in England/Scotland/Wales, came to 

Lancaster County, Virginia in 1651 as an indentured servant." 

1716 -TRANSPORTED JACOBITE REBELS (yeah, there is a list of names.)

"Proceedings of the County Courts of Kent (1648-1676), Talbot (1662-

1674), and Somerset (1665-1668)"

"In Company with William Bunch saruant Saruant to Obidia Judkin When 

he Run away from his Master.....Abidiah Judkins"

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bunch-40"

See Documenting the ancestors of Barack Obama and the descendants - 

“Documenting President Barack Obama's Maternal African-American 

Ancestry: Tracing His Mother's Bunch Ancestry to the First Slave in 

America” 

https://ia601406.us.archive.org/23/items/25004473/25004473.pdf."

"Bunch Family Tree. Whatever Happened To The Melungeons??? Web. 7 

Feb. 2018. <https://pamsfamilytrees.weebly.com/>."

We are right here honey! Can slaves buy land, or get it awarded? Are their 

children ever born free? Can they then buy land? Some may forget that the 

appointed men don't rule alone. The church judges, fines, awards lashes, 

lengthens servitude years, binds children to tradesmen for years, put men 

in stocks, and keeps the money from fines they levey! A bastard child must 

be confessed to on "his" (the father's) knees! He gets a fine, thirty lashes. 

She gets years added to her indenture, her child bound out, for a fee of 

course!

WikiTree

"Anastasia Harman, Paul C. Reed, Natalie D. Cottrill, Joseph Shumway, 

"Documenting President Barack Obama’s maternal African-American 

ancestry: tracing his mother’s Bunch ancestry to the first slave in America," 

(Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 16 July 2012) Read at Internet Archive."

"Kathie (Parks) Forbes;"The Ancestry document on the descendants of 

John Punch [1] is VERY well documented."

Genealogy of Barack Hussein Obama Jr

AND...For a few generations, Genealogy of Dan Bunch

1 John BUNCH b: 1636 d: 1700

  + Mary b: 1640

    2 John BUNCH b: 1665 d: 1729

      + Temperance BATES

        3 John BUNCH b: 1690 d: 14 MAR 1741

          + Rebecca HARRISON b: 1699 d: 16 MAR 1770

            4 Samuel BUNCH b: 1726 d: 1783

              + Mary HUDSON b: 1726 d: 31 JAN 1792

I ain't try'n to pick a fight here, only try'n to understand. Just by going with 

what I've read, what about.....

Morning Bunch of the Rose Bunch Tuckahoe Indian Tribe? She didn' get 

that name from one of her husbands named "BUNCH", cause' he changed 

it from "BUNDREN", which didn' make his dad angry. Since he changed his 

name from "BOUNDURANT", to "BUNDREN"! To BUNDREN to reflect 

"English" instead of "Alsace" (French), where his family immigrated from. 

Also in the case of marryin', kin of Rose Bunch, (Me Mum's Name also!) it 

was for trade'n with the indians. By the way my SNEED married her(the 

Indian Rose Bunch) too!

What about people coming to the "new world" and not checking in with the 

English authorities? As one young man did, trying to Drop out of Society. 

Then, finding the indians getting cheated by the English Traders, wrote his 

"Billionaire" shipping Father to send some of "His"; Jr's, own ships! (He 

might'a dropped out, but thanks to Grandpa, he, Junior, was a shipping 

"millionaire" himself, and saw an opportuity to help the poor indiginous 

souls! (Forgot Jr's name) He also taught the Indians math; English; 

German; French Languages; and very importantly, value of money in trade.

What about the black African that walked to VA from Mexico, surviving an 

indian attack that whipped out a Spanish Military patrol? Do you reckon 

Capt Cook left any BLACKS behind, judging them not to have family to 

pay huge ransom?

Later,

Dan Bunch

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 Dan Note: From an earlier email. An answer in a dialogue. Reproduced here just to get you thinking in term you might not be used to.

Howdy,

SO!..........................you're into cannibalism? :)

I think you are not correct.........entirely:) When you say;

"For me, I am [CURRENTLY] convinced that the Portuguese ship(s)

of Angolan slaves--freed to indenture in and around Jamestown

(and possibly elsewhere, but apparently not recorded) up and down

the coast, ARE the core, and the single shared element among ALL

Melungeons.  And that NOT ALL the Angolans' family lines led to

Melungia, but that SOME did."

I think you meant; "from indenture"? But as they, "the first blacks" imported 

by the Dutch ship, we now know which ship they were taken from, as I 

understand it? And then we know it was from Dutch controlled Africa? No 

matter...my thinking is that as ONE person, a doctor, arriving on an English 

ship as the Medical Officer, bought most all of the black "servants never a 

slave" cargo. This Doctor (sorry cannnot now recall name:( was one that was 

killed during an indian uprising. (1622) His widow was holed up with two

children and another man while he went to the aid / medical care, of others. 

He was slain within sight of the cabin. The widow hit an Indian on the head 

whenever he entered through the chimney or ceiling. The other man was 

also fighting. (With A long barreled Goose gun, later shipped to England to 

have the barrel cut off.) A neighbor or servant, I forget which. (A 

shoemaker) And the two small boys, each taking the nickname of the thing 

they had to hid under, a washtub and a cookpot? or some such, for the rest 

of their lives! Both were very young. She remarried and moved later. 

Thing is; if these, the largest group of African "imports", all were owned by 

one person, one could assume that they also, at least for a while, lived, ate, 

and mated, within hearing distance of one another:) That would mean that 

their children, and grandchildren, might have also been close in physical 

communication:) So that the first mating of African/European, would have 

intermarried with European or the "same kind" next generation, ie 

European/African. This is encouraging. In that it is easier to look for a "core" 

than a scattering of "enlisted" or "volunteers", say for instance.

However, to say that in generations later on, they all stayed together, or 

interbred, is a bit harder to understand the logic, if it indeed happened that 

way. One or two going to a place and intermarrying and isolating themselves 

is more understandable, and would make the outcome the same as many 

going and doing so. But the difference is the Eurpean influx into the two 

genepools (assuming the African to be of the same tribe/family?) and would 

thus give rise to different looks, hair, eye color, etc.

I don't think this is the "core" if you want to call it that. I think that the 

"core" was here already when the African/European admixture took place! 

Yes, I think the "soon-to-be-melungeon", that is, the other half of the 

equasion, was already here for the African "imports" to intermarry with, was 

already here. They were, probably, no.........PROBABLY (so you dont' take it 

as fact and beat me to death with what I said:) Pamunkey survivors and 

others. I think these "others" are of course "both and all" of the 

aforementioned, that is to say, Gypsy; survivors of conflicts; imported; etc. 

And that is why they seem to us to be a mighty mix of many colors and 

creeds and races. The fact is, that most were sailors, or "clams" in that they 

are beach living people, tied to the sailor's trade and or industry. Or t'would 

figure that way. (By "imports" I mean Miners to Germania)                           

            

So let's say for arguing sake that there was Pamunkey where the first ship 

landed (there was) and that they were then entreated and mated with (they 

certainly were) and then that later on they were raided, and before that, 

individuals were thrown into the water from the ships and used as target 

practice, (they were! all true!) and then, at the last, surrounded by 

Europeans and indians, and slaughtered ALMOST intirely. (also true) 

Now, if this thinking is correct, they would have no love for most Europeans 

nor Indians! That too figers. Then a wierd thing happened on the way to 

independence. There was a "cottage industry" set up, by the survivors and 

others, a house of 'ill repute", if I can say it that way. Because the joke was 

for a sailor or enlisted man, to "go see the Queen" (of Pamunkey). That is to 

say, the Pamunkey (offspring that is? colored", as they say) have been dis-

enfranchised and the Pamunkey Tribe now have a discrimination clause in 

their constitution today. They "forbid" any black ancestry/blood from being 

part of their tribe and or reservation they now have. (it was public land 

mostly, now only a few acres). That too could figure into the equasion. (I say 

"now" because it is still in their "charter")

So, what do we have so far? African ancestry for everyone. European 

ancestry for everyone. Outcast for everyone. And now all we need to bring 

it to a boil is "reason for leaving and or wanting to hide". And if we look at 

history, and dan's:) ancestry, we can figure that out too! The new laws 

against intermarriage with whites. And then laws that, in effect, made all fpc 

and/or african servants, slaves for life in Virginia on a particular day.

Add to that the confusion brought on by my ancestor wanting to intermarry, 

about who was considered mulloto; mullata; how many generations to 

"White"; and so forth.

They MIGHT have come from Germania! As MY ancestors did come from 

Germania. And that would bring us to the most unusual fact of early history 

anyone could dream up. 

There was a man named Priber.

1 Christian Gottlieb Priber b: 21 MAR 1697 d: ABT 1744

  + A Cherokee Moytoy b: ABT 1720?

    2 Cristian Place Priber b: ABT 1737?

    2 Creat Priber b: 1740 d: 1790

      + Chief Doublehead (Taltsuska) b: BET 1744 AND 1799 d: 09 AUG 1807

Now, old Priber was from Europe, was well educated, knowing many 

languages. Origonally wanting to immigrate to thr colonies. He applied first 

for allotment land the Jamestown area. This was finally granted, but he did 

not take it, due to his absence from the area. Where did he go? 

Well, seems he heard of a German settlement! Germania, I presume (from 

the gedcoms:), where he got hooked up with the native americans. In fact 

he was adopted into the tribe. He ad learned the language, dressed as a 

native, and lived AS A NATIVE. Many of MY DECENDANTS were in Germania, 

and environs. (remember, I AM a Melungeon line from the "core", if you 

want to put it that way:) And there he became an Indian!

I'm not kidding here. He, for all practical purposes, was indian. He taught 

them. He did not teach them English, French, math, because they already 

knew that!!!! (They all could read, write, and do math, taught them many 

years before by one European "father" that lived in a cave above Jamestown 

in the early years! (Son of a rich shipping merchant.) And so what Priber did, 

was teach them how to trade with the English and others. 

This p.o.'ed the English! The English traders had to actually give good and 

equal value for what they wanted! Astonishing!! But not for long. For the 

British thought he was a "spy" and an instigator, and an ambassador in the 

employ of France. As such, he could be hunted down and imprisioned. Which 

is exactly what happened. He was imprisioned, where he wrote, in Cherokee

the bible; or the New Testament, (part of?). Which writing has never been 

found. This in aide / collaboration with a monk/priest. He also enjoyed the 

visits of many educated and liberal english. But he died in prison. His son 

sold everything of value his father had (before or after death, maybe before 

for bond/eating money?).

And the main thing is; he started a "Utopia"! 

Now, a utopia, in order to qualify as a "utopia", has to accept people. Which 

people? Well, some would be the blessed and educated and monied. But that 

would be a minority. Some would be Indian. And some majority would be 

about the "dregs" of society. Yes I am talking about MY ancestors, and 

probably yours! (as mine intermarried with Indian and Germanic) This would 

then be seen as a major problem to England. 

If this is correct, then there must be at least one (one to three generations 

per hundred years, buddy:) figuring some overlapping. I do remember a 

1960's life cover picture of a slave, showing his back which was whelped with 

the swollen scars of many whip strikes. The last "confederate war veteran" 

did not die until the late 1960's, to put "time" into perspective. Also, about 

Peleg (from my weakened memory:) "In his days was the earth divided" 

means physically, the seas filling the new gaps:)? or, politically, the sea of 

people filling the gaps?:) anyway, ...........there had to be one or two or more 

generations of the offspring of the mating in this Utopia, of Scot (irish-no 

irish:) and indian/ and scot/english/indian/germanic as mine is scot 

"SNEED/McNabb" married to "Willhoite" Germanic/indian, as the 

Willhoite/wilhoit/wilhite/wilhart/ family (even though one says there is no 

intermarrage with indian in the family:) They married at least once:) cause I 

am here!:)

But also there had to be more "entanglements" of races and genotypes, in a 

Utopia, that does occure often. And then as the main man was captured, and 

imprisioned, wouldn't there be a need of flight, for some? The Indians then, 

mostly mullotto actually, as all the historically named ones we know of today, 

(that others teach are "Native American" and "victims" of Europeans, are 

really mullotto, or interbred and could read and write and decifer:) would 

shake out of the mix. The interbreed (looking physically non-Indian 

perhaps? :) leaving one direction, south, and the Indian leaving to the 

southwest? And this is a "Core" of the Melungeon? They, MY family, went to 

help build a Fort Blackmoore. And stayed to live along the Clinch.

This is as close as I can come to the reasoning about this "core" Melungeon. 

I cannot say that I can substantiate any of this, except to point to the history I 

read, and the gedcoms containing Priber and my family and germanic family 

and "assuming" African influx into the Bunch line. I do know that there were 

Bunch Indians. A "Rose Bunch Tuckaho Tribe" which a Boundurant/Bundren 

son married into. Just to mention a different line.

Actually, Boundurant coming to America with his wife; his son changed his 

name to Bundren. And one of his sons , marrying a Mourning Bunch of the 

Rose Bunch Tuckahoe tribe changed his name to Bunch. (or did he marry 

Rose Bunch? I forget:) For trade or protection or both? Perhaps.

No doubt I did not come down this line of bunch! Why, because I am also kin 

to the person next to marry her! A Sneed? Of which I am sure of. And so, we 

may have this Utopian name? It may well have been "Tuckahoe"! That would 

figure! If there was a Tuckahoe tribe, it could have been the name of the 

Utopia that Priber started/joined! Also, it is the name of a root dug from the 

riverbank used to make bread. And the name of an Indian stupid enough to 

show two white men where to dig for gold in exchange for a rifle, which they 

gave to him one bullet at a time! 

Thinking gives me a headache, so that is as far as I can go today. And 

actually, that is about as far as I can go logically, that is, without refering to 

written family stories I gathered online, logically. So I will think on this some 

more. And wait to see if there are any that know more about Priber, a 

facinating person in history. If we use ME as the "benchmark" here, then 

there is a proximity of provincial progeny projected to Priber:) Wow! No 

wonder my head hurts:)

Later,

dan bunch

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